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		<title>By: Baiskeli</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalacrobatics.com/think/archives/2008/04/statesmanship.php/comment-page-1#comment-31255</link>
		<dc:creator>Baiskeli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus!

I had to sit there and calculate that 500,000 acres is a parcel of land about 45km by 45km on each side (if my math is correct). That is some serious land. These guys don&#039;t steal small do they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus!</p>
<p>I had to sit there and calculate that 500,000 acres is a parcel of land about 45km by 45km on each side (if my math is correct). That is some serious land. These guys don&#8217;t steal small do they?</p>
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		<title>By: Mitzy</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalacrobatics.com/think/archives/2008/04/statesmanship.php/comment-page-1#comment-31160</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed Nyerere was a statesman with integrity.  Although Ujamaa wasnâ€™t successful, he was dedicated to his people &amp; to Africa.  He is also credited with uniting over 120 tribes in Tanzania into one country speaking a common language, Swahili.  Lets not forget he made history when he became the first post-independence African leader to voluntarily relinquish power.  Upon retirement, he returned to his village to live in a modest house.
Mental, very insightful piece.  In blogs we trustâ€¦ :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed Nyerere was a statesman with integrity.  Although Ujamaa wasnâ€™t successful, he was dedicated to his people &amp; to Africa.  He is also credited with uniting over 120 tribes in Tanzania into one country speaking a common language, Swahili.  Lets not forget he made history when he became the first post-independence African leader to voluntarily relinquish power.  Upon retirement, he returned to his village to live in a modest house.<br />
Mental, very insightful piece.  In blogs we trustâ€¦ :D</p>
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		<title>By: Chikwe Ihekweazu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chikwe Ihekweazu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent excellent piece of much broader relevance than Tanzania and Kenya. Look at where Obasanjo has found himself in Nigeria ...rejected at home...and abroad. Because he sort to extend his tenure (luckily ably resisted by the parlaiment). ....and he has become...an ex-statesman!

Good one</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent excellent piece of much broader relevance than Tanzania and Kenya. Look at where Obasanjo has found himself in Nigeria &#8230;rejected at home&#8230;and abroad. Because he sort to extend his tenure (luckily ably resisted by the parlaiment). &#8230;.and he has become&#8230;an ex-statesman!</p>
<p>Good one</p>
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		<title>By: sputnik</title>
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		<dc:creator>sputnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry it was a &#039;radar system&#039; not a missile defence system*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry it was a &#8216;radar system&#8217; not a missile defence system*</p>
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		<title>By: sputnik</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalacrobatics.com/think/archives/2008/04/statesmanship.php/comment-page-1#comment-31141</link>
		<dc:creator>sputnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well written article but I feel you have overlooked some crucial points. I respect the fact that this is your blog and you have the right to be as subjective as you like. It would be nice however to balance your views in certain cases..Nyerere was a good man but a statesman? If he were that he would have listened to advice regarding his misguided policies which as pointed out led to great suffering amongst the Tanzanian people..and set them up to be a state that is now completely dominated by foreign interests..if you look at CCM you will notice that most of the senior party members are the same fellows who were there at independence and they have all greatly enriched themselves at the cost of the â€˜sleepingâ€™ Tanzanians..its a really sad story brother and its soon going to unravel..Iâ€™m sure you are aware of the â€˜missile defenceâ€™ system purchased under the Mkapa regime..much more is coming out. We as Kenyans have always stood for what we believe is right and unfortunately that has led to bloodshed at times but at the same time we have far more effective, visionary leaders than Tanzania who at the moment could care less about the efforts to galvanise East Africa as they sell there â€˜soulâ€™ to the West via SA and so onâ€¦.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well written article but I feel you have overlooked some crucial points. I respect the fact that this is your blog and you have the right to be as subjective as you like. It would be nice however to balance your views in certain cases..Nyerere was a good man but a statesman? If he were that he would have listened to advice regarding his misguided policies which as pointed out led to great suffering amongst the Tanzanian people..and set them up to be a state that is now completely dominated by foreign interests..if you look at CCM you will notice that most of the senior party members are the same fellows who were there at independence and they have all greatly enriched themselves at the cost of the â€˜sleepingâ€™ Tanzanians..its a really sad story brother and its soon going to unravel..Iâ€™m sure you are aware of the â€˜missile defenceâ€™ system purchased under the Mkapa regime..much more is coming out. We as Kenyans have always stood for what we believe is right and unfortunately that has led to bloodshed at times but at the same time we have far more effective, visionary leaders than Tanzania who at the moment could care less about the efforts to galvanise East Africa as they sell there â€˜soulâ€™ to the West via SA and so onâ€¦.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>insignificant and inarticulate Kenyan blogger?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>insignificant and inarticulate Kenyan blogger?</p>
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		<title>By: News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Statesmanship</title>
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		<dc:creator>News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Statesmanship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Medianetwork &acirc;€” Latest media news and musings from Radio Netherlands &#8211; the Dutch internationa&#8230; wrote an interesting post today on StatesmanshipHere&#8217;s a quick excerptA while ago the East African blogosphere was rocked with controversy that began when a Kenyan blogger called the Tanzania president, Jakaya Kikwete, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: daniel.waweru</title>
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		<dc:creator>daniel.waweru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The definition is disastrous. To possess knowledge of how to rule, and a love for the country apparently suffice for statesmanship. But this is ridiculous: it follows that a patriotic, well-intentioned political scientist â€“ who has never held power and never will â€“ is a statesman too. 

By the definition given, Nyerere wasnâ€™t a statesman. He made terrible economic mistakes, mistakes which have had lasting consequences. If he didnâ€™t know enough not to make those mistakes, then he wasnâ€™t a statesman; if he knew enough not to, and still made them, then he cannot have had the best interests of his countrymen at heart. (I say this as someone who has a copy of the Arusha declaration at home, and who supports the cause of his canonization; he was a great and good man, not a &lt;i&gt;states&lt;/i&gt;man.) 

The case for Kenyatta as a statesman is, in fact, better. He failed to unite the country, and left gigantic problems for his successors. But, having inherited a much more complex and violent situation than Nyerere, he (and Mboya) made the right decisions on (i) land reform and (ii) economic policy (the costs of failure are neatly illustrated by  Zim). Land reform, in particular, must have been terrible for him: this, after all, is a man who carried on his ankles, to his dying day, the marks of the shackles that had been fastened in jail. The bashing heâ€™s getting now is a sign that Kenya is growing up: like any adolescent, weâ€™re compelled to rebel against our parents, the better to show our independence.  

As for the bloated cabinet: the entire political class, or as much of it as can be squeezed in, needs to be involved for the coming constitutional settlement to stick. The RVP political class has demonstrated that it is willing to use mass murder and ethnic cleansing to get a place at the table â€“ not that the demonstration was required after the events of 1992. It is prudent, therefore, to ensure its inclusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The definition is disastrous. To possess knowledge of how to rule, and a love for the country apparently suffice for statesmanship. But this is ridiculous: it follows that a patriotic, well-intentioned political scientist â€“ who has never held power and never will â€“ is a statesman too. </p>
<p>By the definition given, Nyerere wasnâ€™t a statesman. He made terrible economic mistakes, mistakes which have had lasting consequences. If he didnâ€™t know enough not to make those mistakes, then he wasnâ€™t a statesman; if he knew enough not to, and still made them, then he cannot have had the best interests of his countrymen at heart. (I say this as someone who has a copy of the Arusha declaration at home, and who supports the cause of his canonization; he was a great and good man, not a <i>states</i>man.) </p>
<p>The case for Kenyatta as a statesman is, in fact, better. He failed to unite the country, and left gigantic problems for his successors. But, having inherited a much more complex and violent situation than Nyerere, he (and Mboya) made the right decisions on (i) land reform and (ii) economic policy (the costs of failure are neatly illustrated by  Zim). Land reform, in particular, must have been terrible for him: this, after all, is a man who carried on his ankles, to his dying day, the marks of the shackles that had been fastened in jail. The bashing heâ€™s getting now is a sign that Kenya is growing up: like any adolescent, weâ€™re compelled to rebel against our parents, the better to show our independence.  </p>
<p>As for the bloated cabinet: the entire political class, or as much of it as can be squeezed in, needs to be involved for the coming constitutional settlement to stick. The RVP political class has demonstrated that it is willing to use mass murder and ethnic cleansing to get a place at the table â€“ not that the demonstration was required after the events of 1992. It is prudent, therefore, to ensure its inclusion.</p>
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